[Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies

Ingrid & Eric Holzman ieholzman at verizon.net
Fri Sep 8 07:56:34 CDT 2006 

Yes, I believe you're correct.

Ingrid
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies


>I think his family already owns a zoo - Australia Zoo I think
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net]
> On Behalf Of Ingrid & Eric Holzman
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:29 AM
> To: Mishmash
> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>
> Your idea of a Steve Irwin award is fantastic.  Or perhaps they could 
> rename
> a zoo (and sponsor it!) in his name to honor his work.
>
> Ingrid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>
>
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> I could not agree more.  I don’t think anyone would deny that he was a
>> good
>> bloke.  Rather than a State funeral where politicians and dignitaries 
>> will
>> all spout platitudes, I would like to see something along the lines of a
>> Steve Irwin award for conservation.  I think that would recognise his
>> achievements more effectively and have lasting appeal.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>>> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Fred Atkinson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 10:45 PM
>>> To: mishmash at mishmash.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>>
>>> Ingrid,
>>>
>>>      I certainly think that Steve Irwin deserves some special
>>> recognition.  In spite of the risks he took, his heart was in
>>> the right place.  And like a lot of Australians, he is a very
>>> likeable sort.  He did a lot to educate a lot of us (and
>>> primarily our young) about the issues of wildlife and the
>>> importance of conservation.
>>>
>>>      Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                Fred Atkinson
>>>
>>> --- ieholzman at verizon.net wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "Ingrid & Eric Holzman" <ieholzman at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Mishmash" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:41:30 -0400
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to hear about your father-in-law.  I hope it
>>> resolves itself soon.
>>>
>>> I agree with you that Steve tended to take unnecessary risks.
>>>  The incident with Bob is definitely one that I was appalled
>>> by.  Also, putting his face up to that of a venomous snake as
>>> well as putting his hand near the mouth of a crocodile.
>>> Those were foolish actions and he often got bit, albeit they
>>> weren't deadly.  I can't help but feel that he swam way too
>>> close to the stingray that killed him.  The barb was
>>> supposedly 8" long and in order for it to impale his
>>> ribs/heart the way it did means he was right on top of the
>>> ray, not 1 meter above it.  He always got close to the
>>> animals he worked with and this time it was deadly.  I can
>>> only hope that others interested in doing the type of work he
>>> did will recognize that his methods were not always the most
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts about a State funeral?  I recognize
>>> his importance in Australia, but I'm not sure it warrants a
>>> State funeral.  Talk about hard-hearted! ;-)
>>>
>>> Ingrid
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
>>> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Ingrid and Robyn,
>>> >
>>> > I have been around but have been very busy.  My wife's Dad
>>> in Poland is 88
>>> > and has required a lot of intervention and this has been a bit
>>> > distracting.
>>> > I have been keeping an eye on proceedings though.
>>> >
>>> > I have never been a Steve Irwin fan.  I acknowledge that he
>>> has done a lot
>>> > for conservation and was used extensively by our quarantine
>>> service but he
>>> > did lots of very silly things.  The incident with Bob and
>>> the crocodile
>>> > immediately comes to mind but there were others such as
>>> when he went too
>>> > close to protected animals in the Antarctic.  IMHO he was
>>> an accident
>>> > waiting to happen.  Of course I feel sympathy for his
>>> family and their
>>> > loss
>>> > but little for him.
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for being hard hearted.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> > David
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>>> >> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>>> >> Eric Holzman
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:55 AM
>>> >> To: Mishmash
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey David,
>>> >>
>>> >> It's wonderful to see your e-mail in my inbox.  It's
>>> >> incredibly sad what happened, particularly when I think about
>>> >> his two young children, but one has to realize that with the
>>> >> type of job he had, there were risks involved.
>>> >> Granted, this was a freak accident.  For me, knowing that his
>>> >> death seemed to be quick was somewhat consoling.  I can only
>>> >> hope the family can take solace in that knowledge as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ingrid
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "David Brown" <djbrown at tpg.com.au>
>>> >> To: "'Mishmash'" <mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:48 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have been quiet but I thought I might give you some
>>> local detail.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Irwin was snorkling on the reef in a break from a doco he
>>> >> was making.  He
>>> >> > was relaxing by filming some stuff for another project.  He
>>> >> snorkeled over
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > bull ray.  The ray struck him with its tail in the chest.
>>> >> He pulled the
>>> >> > barb out died within a minute.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There is an article and video at this url.
>>> >> > http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=232744&GT1=7703
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Regards
>>> >> >
>>> >> > David
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net
>>> >> >> [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net] On Behalf Of Ingrid &
>>> >> >> Eric Holzman
>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:52 PM
>>> >> >> To: Mishmash
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> We watched quite a bit on Animal Planet last night.  My son
>>> >> >> liked him a lot.
>>> >> >> He did a lot for animal conservation and was very
>>> >> >> knowledgable.  It's sad that one freak accident is leaving
>>> >> >> two beautiful young children without a father.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Ingrid
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson at mishmash.com>
>>> >> >> To: "Mishmash" <Mishmash at mishmash.net>
>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:50 AM
>>> >> >> Subject: [Mishmash] Steve Irwin Tragically Dies
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Folks,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >     Steve Irwn died in a tragic incident while filming.
>>> >> >> For those of you
>>> >> >> > who might not know, he's the fellow on The Discovery
>>> >> >> Channel known as 'The
>>> >> >> > Crocodile Hunter'.  Here's a link to the story:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> http://articles.news.aol.com/entertainment/_a/crocodile-hunter
>>> >> >> -steve-irwins-death/20060904005509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >>       Fred
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
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