[Mishmash] Explain please!

[Carole]

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From: Richard Barth
Date: 6/25/2007 4:52:28 PM
To: Mishmash
Subject: Re: [Mishmash] Explain please!
 
>Do you have a basis for these statements?  Everything I've read on
>the subject says exactly the opposite.  You are the only person I've
>heard say that there is plenty of research in place -- if there were,
>why would there be so much clamor for government funding?  Where is
>the research taking place, And who is buying the tissue everything
>else I've read says is being destroyed?

there is always clamor for government funding of everything.  the loudest
voices get the bacon.  that's how lobbyists make their paychecks.   that is
why we are spending billions of taxpayer money on aids which really affects
a small %age of people in usa.  granted - it is a big problem in undeveloped
countries; but not here.  the reason we hear about the clamor for govt
spending for fetal research (and we do already fund a lot of it) is because
it is an emotional issue.
check out   http://stemcells.nih.gov and see how much research is going on
and that his the nih which is a govt agency - plus all the research going on
at colleges.  and yes, i do have first hand knowledge of drs. selling the
tissue to private research companies.  there was (he died recently) an
abortionist in this town for the last 25 years and he did indeed sell this
tissue to private research.  all perfectly legal.  cost him a little more
than fluching it away but since he was paid for it i doubt it cost him
anything.  
 
>>  there is also research going on that is government sponsored.
 
>Not by the Feds.  California is funding some research, it's
>true.  There is some done by other state and local bodies.  But
>Federal funding is limited to that done only with existing strains of
>stem cells, and it's well known that most of these are ruined by
>earlier contamination with non-human cells, making them useless for human
use.

the NIH is a federal govt. agency.  and as far as the contamination is
concerned any new cells will be equally contaminated.   this is research we
are talking about - not actual usage for disease.
 
>>  these bills that bush keeps vetoing are simply to have the
>> government take more of a part in funding and providing this research.
 
>Because inadequate work is currently being done.

if the work were inadequate - we wouldn't know what we know now.  research
takes years and years for just one breakthru.
  
>Doing what, and at what level I wonder?  You don't seem to have a
>clear view of what the government does and how it works.

i have a very clear view of what the govt. does.  and i am not
anti-government by any stretch of the imagination.  that is what i did for
16 years - trying to sell the government to joe citizen.  but i also know
that many of the things govt. involves itself in shows considerable waste of
time and money that would certainly not be tolerated in private business.  
government does many things very well; but it does other things very poorly.
 government has it's place but there are those that think it's place is
everywhere.
 
just as an interesting side - and i have no idea whether it's legit or not: 
 http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b8e4db009ad.htm

cb
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