[Mishmash] Message from your friend

[David Brown]

Well Fred, you are being controversial J

 

We have them by the score down here.  Of course we are told they are for our
own safety and not a revenue raising measure.  In Victoria they even call
them safety cameras.  At least other States I am familiar with call them
speed cameras or red light/speed cameras.

 

The issues the video you sent raises are the same here.  You are guilty
until proven innocent.  We do not have a Bill of Rights per se but rely on
common law for rights.  To date, afaik, no one has challenged this reversal
of guilt.  I guess people just accept that taxes are inevitable.  You can
request a copy of the photo but it costs about another $15.  What NSW and
the ACT do now is to sign post fixed cameras.  There are huge signs spaced
over about a kilometre warning you so if you get caught you should do some
hard thinking about why.  In the ACT we also have mobile white vans with
speed cameras in the back operated by civil servants that park beside the
road.  These are much less well sign posted.  Fortunately they take photos
head on.  

 

Some years ago I was at the Royal Easter Show in Sydney.  The police had a
display and showed photos taken by fixed cameras.  I noticed that they were
all from the rear and I asked if this was just coincidence.  They told me it
was to protect the occupants from the potential of compromise.  ????  If say
the driver was photographed with the wrong woman in the seat beside him and
his wife saw the photo. J 

 

In Victoria they take all photos front on.  For me this is good.  Bikes have
no frontal ID and I usually wear a dark visor so I am pretty safe.  Of
course the Victorian bureaucracy is aware that they are leaking revenue so
they are pushing for front number plates on motorcycles.   They argue that
this is a safety measure.  Ho, ho, bloody ho.  Fortunately all States need
to agree on number plates as this comes under National Road Rules and NSW,
the ACT and Queensland are not going along with it.

 

FWIW, speed cameras are ubiquitous in Europe.  In Poland every village has
them at the start of the 60 Km/h zone.  I found out later that very few of
them actually work though.  It is cheaper to just buy the housing.  The
effect is pretty much the same on ambient speed as you don't know which ones
do work.  I did not really are though as I was driving on an Aussie license
>:-)

 

Cheers

 

David

 

 

From: mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net [mailto:mishmash-bounces at mishmash.net]
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Sent: Friday, 14 November 2008 9:06 AM
To: mishmash at mishmash.net
Subject: [Mishmash] Message from your friend

 



This email was sent to you by your friend, Fred Atkinson

 



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Revolt against traffic light cams

	
 

Hi Mishmash,
Your friend, Fred Atkinson, thought you might be interested in this video. 

What do you think of this? 

	

 

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