[Mishmash] Obama? Oh, Please!

[Richard Barth]

At 11:48 AM 1/25/2009, you wrote:
>At 07:02 AM 1/25/09, you wrote:
>
>  From the getgo I found it disturbing that Obama claims to be black 
> when in actuality he's a mulatto

  "Claims to be"?  Who, in this country, would consider him something 
other than black?  Anyone with mixed-race blood is automatically 
consigned to whatever category bigots consider the lower class of 
human, and for a long time they were barely considered human. A 
"mulatto" has no choice in the matter; he's pre-designated from birth.

On the other hand, an ivy-league education and presidency of the law 
review are hardly qualities one normally associates with "lower 
classes", are they?

>As for diplomatic outreach to the Middle East - the taliban, hamas, 
>etc., want a muslim world - they don't now, nor did they ever, want 
>peace.  We've got Liberal (akin to Democrats) politicians here in 
>Canada saying the same thing

What thing?  That the Islamist terrorists want a Muslim world?  Of 
course they do; they've made that point quite clear.  Sounds like 
your Liberals have their heads on straight.

>  peace is not what the terrorists want.

Agreed.  I haven't heard anyone in a responsible position in the 
States arguing that point.  The bleeding hearts are another matter; 
it's comforting to know you have your share up in Canada. I'd hate to 
think we had a monopoly on 'em. :-)


>There is a Canadian citizen in Gitmo by the name of Omar Khadr.   He 
>was arrested for killing a U.S. soldier when he was 15 - he's 22 now 
>- Obama put off his trial just as it was about to start 
>(http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/01/13/f-omar-khadr.html)  The 
>bleeding heart liberals want him brought back to Canada for trial - 
>that will be a farce as our legal system is joke.  The leader of the 
>Liberal party in Canada said the other night he should be brought 
>back to Canada and integrated back into Canada society!  (No mention 
>of a trial.)  There a lot of us up here don't want him back, let 
>alone "integrated".  His family is a notorious supporter of the 
>taliban, his father (killed in a battle) was a friend of Bin Laden's 
>and a major fundraiser in Canada for Bin Laden - the whole family 
>spent time (and training) in Bin Laden's camp - one brother of 
>Khadr's  was paralized in a gun fight - he's now back in Canada 
>where our "free" health care is going to support him for the rest of 
>his life.  Khadr's mother and sister were interviewed on our 
>national t.v. network praising their sons and wishing jihad on the world.
>
>It's fine to say he was only 15 when the events occurred but all 
>that indoctrination is part and parcel of him now - and if he's 
>released back into Canada, his mother and the rest of his family 
>will only reinforce it.  He's dangerous and shouldn't ever be 
>released - and he's a minor player on the stage that Omba wants to 
>make peace ovetures to.

You may be confusing two issues involving Muslims.  There are the 
Taliban-type religious fanatics who long for the return of the 
caliphate and the re-conquest of all the regions that Islam once 
ruled, from Spain to the Middle East. There are, separately, those 
whose issues are less religious than political; they want to regain 
the lands their families left when the state of Israel was created, 
and the abolition of Israel as what they consider a usurper. 
Unfortunately, they have adopted the same terrorist tactics: suicide 
bombings and the murder of civilians, that gain them no sympathy from 
the outside world.

Never having heard of Omar Khadr, I can't comment on his case, but 
only say that I agree with you that anyone who presents a danger to 
society should be kept away from it.  As for the delay in his trial, 
I can only point out that his trial was treated the same as all the 
other pending trials -- delayed, not canceled.  The secrecy with 
which the Gitmo prisoners were treated made that the most prudent 
course, since so many of the prisoners there were being held on the 
flimsiest of evidence and the courts will need time to sort out the 
facts.   Don't forget that the military "trials" were being conducted 
under political, not legal guidelines.


>Susan

Dick


>At 07:02 AM 1/25/09, you wrote:
>
> >At 06:07 PM 1/24/2009, you wrote:
> >>Obama is a dedicated husband and father, is highly intelligent, a 
> good listener (something Bush never did), and has the best 
> interests of this country at heart.  He will make mistakes, but at 
> the same time, he will implement health care for those who do not 
> have it, lower taxes, no taxes for retirees, stem cell research, 
> and diplomatic outreach to the Middle East.
> >>
> >>
>
>
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